From Human Nature to Healing Hearts – Dylan's MJ Story

Episode 34 October 16, 2025 00:31:17
From Human Nature to Healing Hearts – Dylan's MJ Story
It's All For LOVE
From Human Nature to Healing Hearts – Dylan's MJ Story

Oct 16 2025 | 00:31:17

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Cheryl Mazza - The Healing Dancer

Show Notes

In this heartfelt episode of It’s All for LOVE, host Cheryl Mazza, The Healing Dancer, welcomes Dylan Knight from St. Louis, Missouri — a gifted Michael Jackson tribute artist and star of the Gone Too Soon: Ultimate MJ Experience.

Dylan shares how Michael Jackson’s music first “discovered” him through the song Human Nature, opening his heart to healing, faith, and purpose. He talks about how Michael’s message of love and peace inspired his life, his art, and even his spiritual connection to God.

Together, Cheryl and Dylan dive deep into:
✨ The magic and healing frequencies in Michael’s music
✨ The synchronicities and signs of Michael’s presence in daily life
✨ What it’s like to perform and live as an MJ tribute artist
✨ How Michael continues to bring love and connection into the world
✨ The unforgettable experiences at MJ One in Las Vegas and the joy of MJ fan community

This episode is filled with love and laughter — a moving celebration of how Michael Jackson continues to unite hearts and inspire healing through music and spirit.

Listen now and feel the love — because, as Dylan reminds us, Michael “loved you more.”

 

You can find Dylan here:

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dylan.knight.371870

TikTok: @Dylanmjtribute

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Foreign. [00:00:09] Speaker B: Hi everyone. Welcome to the it's all for Love podcast. I'm Cheryl Mazza, the healing Dancer, your host. This podcast is all about Michael Jackson and how he continues to spread love in our world and inspires us to live our best lives. Thank you so much for watching and or listening to this episode. But before we get to the episode, I have a few things that I want to tell you. If you are watching this podcast on YouTube, please make sure that you are subscribed to the YouTube channel and also like the video of the episode that you are watching. And I would also love it if you would leave us some comments about how much you loved the episode. If you are listening on any other podcast platform, if you are able to please subscribe on that platform. And also what would really help me is if you would leave a review on whatever podcast platform you are listening on. The reviews help the podcast to be more seen and to spread the word to other Michael Jackson fans about the podcast. And as always, I am looking for guests to be on the podcast. So if you would like to be a guest on this podcast and tell your Michael Jackson story, I would absolutely love to chat with you. Make sure to check out the show notes and find the link to click on to schedule a coffee chat with me or you can email me. The email address is also in the show notes. Thank you again for listening and or watching. It's all for Love. Hi and welcome to the it's all for Love podcast. I'm Cheryl Mazza, the healing dancer, your host and today we have Dylan Knight from St. Louis, Missouri. Dylan is a Michael Jackson tribute artist and he stars in a Michael Jackson tribute show called Gone Too Soon, Ultimate MJ Experience. I am super excited to have you on the show today, Dylan. Thank you so much for being here. [00:02:05] Speaker A: Thank you so much for having me. That means so much. Thank you. [00:02:08] Speaker B: Yes, yes. I can't wait to hear your story and hear all about you. So let's kick it off with When's the first time Michael discovered you? [00:02:20] Speaker A: When did Michael discover me? Kind of flipping the roles here. Well, Michael discovered me, I would say was around 2007. A family friend of mine introduced me to Michael Jackson and as all the MJ fans know, the Essential album has Michael from the Thriller era. You know, it's a black and white cover and I was listening to a song in that album called Human Nature and it just struck me. It was so magical. I couldn't understand what I was hearing, but it was filling me with a lot of joy and I kept listening to that same song over and over and, yeah, 2007, for me, the essential album. That's how he discovered me. [00:03:02] Speaker B: That's awesome. I love that song. Human Nature. It's so beautiful. What a beautiful song to be like. One of the first ones for you. [00:03:10] Speaker A: Oh, for sure. And I believe Michael put some healing frequencies in that music as well. [00:03:15] Speaker B: Oh, definitely. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah. I think he has healing frequencies throughout a lot of his music, for sure. That's why we're also drawn to it, and it is very healing for everybody. How has Michael Jackson inspired you throughout your life? [00:03:30] Speaker A: Michael Jackson inspired me throughout my life. Michael Jackson inspired me in many different ways. Michael Jackson inspired me to not only live a very peaceful and loving life, just like God, but he's inspired me to reach out to others and to love the way that Jesus said to. And I. When I heard Michael say, you know, we should love the way Jesus said to love, that really inspired me to have a better relationship with Christ and love the way that not only Michael, but the way that God loves. [00:03:59] Speaker B: That's beautiful. I definitely can relate to your answer on that. You know, Michael Jackson also, for me, has inspired. Actually, he taught me about love, you know, like how to love and not really in a romantic sense, really, just how to be love and love everyone, everything. You know, how to look at the world, I guess, differently through the eyes of love and, you know, no judgment, that kind of thing. [00:04:26] Speaker A: So, yeah, look at the eye. Look at the eyes from a pure set of eyes, right? [00:04:32] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Hence the name of your podcast. It's all for Love. [00:04:36] Speaker B: Exactly. Yes, yes. And that's what his life was to me. It was all for love, you know, to spread love around the world. So hopefully I'm definitely. [00:04:48] Speaker A: And you're doing the same. You're doing the same. [00:04:50] Speaker B: Thank you. Thank you. Do you ever have what I like to call Michael Jackson synchronicities, where he just magically shows up in your life? [00:04:59] Speaker A: Yes, all the time. I will be shopping in a grocery store. Michael Jackson will just come on. I was at this vintage toy store once, and there was these Michael Jackson dolls, and I didn't even expect to see them there. And then I was like, you know what? I don't need them right now. Then I got in my car and I turn on the radio, and Thriller came on. I was like, oh, my gosh. So I had to go back in and grab them. But Michael seems to follow me everywhere in my workplace, on the radio, in stores, even follow me throughout my love life, surprisingly. [00:05:40] Speaker B: Oh, Wow. I love it. I love that he shows up in our lives, like, consistently, you know. Well, if you had to pick a favorite Michael Jackson song, what would it be? [00:05:51] Speaker A: Oh, my. That's a tough question. I love them all. But if I had to pick one for the casual listeners who are watching or listening, I would have to say Billie Jean, because that's where the magic is at. But if I had to pick one, I would say the Lost Children. That song really hits me in a very special place in my heart. Wow. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yeah. That's an amazing song. Do you have a favorite short film? [00:06:22] Speaker A: Oh, my. I really like Ghosts. Ghost is very interesting, especially the story behind that. If you've read Sean Mangata's book, she has said a lot that went on behind the scenes, but not only is it interesting because of what she said, I just love the art behind it. [00:06:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:43] Speaker A: You know, Very different from what he's done before. [00:06:47] Speaker B: Yes, very different. Well, I want to know about your show that you. Yes. So tell me. Tell me all about it. How did you get into it? [00:06:59] Speaker A: Yeah. So it all started probably earlier this year. I was just sitting around. I was, you know, doing some errands, and I got a call from my producer, and he said, hey, Dylan, I really need a favor. And I said, yeah, what is it? Because I. I need. I need you to come do a show for me. Like, okay, yeah, sure. Where he says, oh, yeah, it's in Augusta. I'm like, okay, Augusta. That's like an hour or two away. Sure. He was talking about Augusta, Maine. And this was two days out. And no, no, huge notice. I was totally unprepared. But I said yes. I said yes. At the time, I hardly had any costumes. I was thinking about retiring. And so I did it. I did the show and it pulled me back into being Michael Jackson, but gone too soon. It is a Michael Jackson tribute show, of course. We do all the songs from the early years all the way to the later years. We have a live band, and I sing and dance, just as Michael would do. And we travel all over the United States. And we have a show coming up October 3rd in Idaho, and we have another one coming up on the 18th in Mississippi. [00:08:21] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. Are you coming to New Jersey? [00:08:26] Speaker A: I come to New Jersey. Well, we'd like to come to New Jersey. We just had a show actually in New York. I'm not sure how far away that is from New Jersey. I think it's about a couple hours. [00:08:40] Speaker B: Is that near, like, Manhattan or anything like that? [00:08:43] Speaker A: Near there? I would say it's on the list. It's on the list or Philadelphia. [00:08:49] Speaker B: I mean, Philadelphia is not far from me either, so. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Philadelphia. Yeah. I mean, it's on the list. We got a lot of contracts we're looking at, and, you know, if the venue agrees to have us and if they want to pay to have our fantastic show, we're going. [00:09:04] Speaker B: All right, well, you. I will definitely keep an eye out for that. I would love to come see your show and, of course, meet you. Yes. [00:09:13] Speaker A: Because that would be amazing. [00:09:15] Speaker B: Yes. Well, do you have a favorite song that you like to perform? [00:09:20] Speaker A: You know, and this goes back to the same question, what my favorite song is. If I have a favorite song I like to perform, it's you are not Alone. That's a song. And not everyone knows, but a lot of people do. I like you Are Not Alone. It's so touching and such a loving song. But if I had to pick a classic, you know, because a lot of people come to MJ shows, they. They aren't hardcore MJ fans. You know, you get a lot of the general audience in there, let's be honest. Of course you get some hardcore fans in there, but a lot of them are just general fans. They want to see Billie Jean, so I like performing Billie Jean, too. That's a really good one. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah. I love when tribute artists do Billie Jean, obviously, because it's, like, it's the biggest one, you know, Everybody knows that. They all know the dance, like, and they just, like, wait for the moonwalk when it comes, you know, we all know when it's gonna happen. So. [00:10:17] Speaker A: The mystical moon walk. It's my favorite move to do. [00:10:20] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah, me too. [00:10:23] Speaker A: You can dance. [00:10:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I can dance. [00:10:27] Speaker A: I mean, you have to show me something. [00:10:30] Speaker B: I will. Not today. It's too early for that. [00:10:35] Speaker A: It's podcast day. Not dancing day. [00:10:37] Speaker B: Exactly. Yes. So before you started doing this show, how long were you doing Michael Jackson? [00:10:48] Speaker A: I would say roughly 15 years, but I've been. I've been doing it professionally for about five years. I've been doing, like, you know, my early years. I was doing a lot of clubs and birthday parties, you know, special events, you know, basically putting my loafers on for a hundred bucks, and I'll do it, you know. Right. Just to get the word around. Five years ago or so, I started doing it professionally with, you know, residencies and, you know, national television and stuff like that. [00:11:27] Speaker B: What inspired you to start doing it? [00:11:31] Speaker A: You know, I saw. I saw. I think it was this crazy, crazy story. I was probably about 8 years old probably 2008. No, no, 2009. 2009. I saw a video of Michael Jackson doing the moonwalk as a 30th anniversary, and I was like, oh, my gosh, that's so cool. I wanted to be just like that. I want to dance like that. And ever since then, I just started doing it. I mean, I was asking my grandma to make me costumes, a glove, you name it, I wanted to be Michael Jackson. People would mention the word Michael Jackson or mj. I would just pop my. My little glove out of my pocket and be like, what did you say? Michael Jackson. [00:12:20] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. [00:12:24] Speaker A: But yeah, I mean, I love MJ and I love what he does. I love his dance moves. He's kind of like a superhero, you know, you want to be like that. And he's just. He has that really cool aura about him. I really want to follow that. And even in my day to day style, you know, I'm not always Michael Jackson. I'm Dylan Knight most of the time. But even some of my, you know, day to day style is influenced by Michael Jackson. [00:12:49] Speaker B: Yes, I love that. I was just talking to a friend of mine here in New Jersey. I mean, she's one of my MJ besties, I call her. And we were just talking about, like, wanting to incorporate Michael Jackson style into, like, our everyday wear. Like, you know, I work in a corporate setting, so I would love to, like, you know, I have a, like a sparkly jacket that's like a suit jacket. And I like, I want someone to put the silver armband around it, you know, it's like, it's my Billie Jean jacket. And I would totally sport that. You know, like, everyone at work knows that I love Michael Jackson. You know, I have pictures of Jackson. Michael, what was that? [00:13:27] Speaker A: You're the Michael Jackson girl at work, huh? [00:13:28] Speaker B: I am, thank you. Definitely. And I'm proud of it. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a good thing to be proud of. [00:13:34] Speaker B: It is. It is, because to me, it's spreading love, you know, like spreading his word is spreading love, you know, of course. Or spreading his legendary life. You know, not just the performer, but the person. [00:13:50] Speaker A: Extra extraordinary, legendary lifestyle. [00:13:54] Speaker B: I love that. Yes. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:56] Speaker B: How does Michael continue to spread love in your world? [00:14:01] Speaker A: Does he continue spreading love in my world? This is deep. So Michael Jackson spreads love into my world by bringing. I don't want to sound like a player because I'm not. But he brings women into my life and they're usually most always Michael Jackson fans. And I haven't been in many relationships, only like three. And every one of them loves Michael Jackson. And he. He brings that kind of love into my life. If we're going to go that way. He bring. He brings someone into my life that. That I think. I think maybe God or Michael knows is giving me the gift of someone who is compatible and loves the same person as I do. [00:14:51] Speaker B: That's beautiful. Yes. Yeah. Because we all. [00:14:54] Speaker A: I like to call it. I like to call it the Michael Jackson effect. [00:14:58] Speaker B: Yes. I love that. I like that. The Michael Jackson effect. Yeah. Way of spreading love in our lives. [00:15:07] Speaker A: Nobody. I would say. I would say he also spreads. Spreads up in my life Just. Just musically or what He's. What he's done for charities and his, you know, his work with children, you know, and the Make a Wish foundation in Neverland, you know, just a lot of that, you know, fills. Fills my heart with joy and love, and I love seeing that. And I. I want to. I want to do the same. If I had Michael Jackson money, I'd be doing the same. [00:15:34] Speaker B: I think we all would. Yes. Yeah. But we can do it. Little. Little bit, you know, Little bit is all we can do. That's okay. That's. That's definitely enough, you know, as long as we're doing it with love. [00:15:46] Speaker A: So. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Yeah. What do you want the world to know about Michael Jackson? [00:15:51] Speaker A: What do I want the world to know about Michael Jackson? Say, first off, innocent. Second of all, that he loved you more. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:05] Speaker A: And third, just an incredible person, you know, that's like asking, what do I want the world to know about God? You know, he loves you. Yeah. I love God so much, and I love Michael. It's kind of hard, you know, Michael, God, no, I pick up. Yeah. But, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:16:30] Speaker B: Beautiful. So tell me about when you went. [00:16:34] Speaker A: To Vegas recently this year. So very incredible experience. Of course, I went to see the MJ One show. There was the MJ brunch. It was a very incredible feeling. You have a whole bunch of people in one room who love Michael Jackson, and that's like the best thing ever, you know, Like, I don't want to be surrounded by these corporate clones and, you know, all these, you know, lame, lame Os, no offense. I love them, but, you know. Yeah. I want to be surrounded with people who love Michael Jackson. And that energy is the best. There's no hate in the room, no drama in the room. We all are just spreading mass love and mass positivity. And then the MJ1 show is incredible, you know, just the acrobats, the acrobatics that they do dancing, that they do, all the cool features they do. I'm literally crying the entire show. And in the end of the show, I'll spoil it. For those who haven't seen it, there's a hologram. It's a hologram of Michael Jackson played by an impersonator. I don't want to say. I don't want to get into that drama, but it's really convincing. And even after a couple drinks, you're really convinced that it's Michael Jackson and you're sobbing and every. I've seen the show twice now, and every time I see it, see the hologram, when it comes on, I'm screaming, Michael. I'm screaming and crying like a little girl. The coolest thing is, though, after the show, I got to meet Michael Bush. His costume designer had him sign a book for me and Big Al, which is his train and ride and operator and maintenance man for Neverland. Very, very sweet guy. He was telling me some stories about his relationship with Michael, and I was just so taken back. And you could tell he really loved Michael. He wasn't just an employee. He was Michael's friend. And just to see that tear in his eye, you know, I was like, wow, he's. This is genuine, you know, and he was wearing an original Neverland cap. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:03] Speaker A: I said, big Al, can I please, please try on your hat? He said, he just took it off and handed it to me. And when I put on that hat, it's like I was feeling some sort of energy from Neverland. And I really believe in energies and, you know, stuff like that. I really feel like I was experiencing a piece of Neverland because I've never got to experience Neverland. Yeah. I've been buying Everlasting. I've never, never stopped. Couldn't get myself to do it. [00:19:33] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Yeah. Neverland, like I was telling you before, is. Is the energy there is like. I think you felt a little bit of it through the hat. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:47] Speaker B: Out. Like it. Yeah, it's. It's amazing. No, I didn't want to leave. I hung out there for, like, four days straight. [00:20:02] Speaker A: Did you pop up a tent? I did. [00:20:05] Speaker B: Go stay in a hotel and then come back the next day. [00:20:09] Speaker A: That's all you were doing for four days, hanging out at Neverland? [00:20:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, there's, like, you know, a couple miles down the road, there's like, a place you can go like a market and get food or, like, use the bathroom or something. So, you know, we just hung out there. We had, like, did, like, picnics you know, I even, like, fell asleep on the. In the grass there. Like, right under the. There's like a big tree out front. That's just amazing. And I just fell asleep in the grass. It's just so, like, peaceful and healing. [00:20:39] Speaker A: And you can. [00:20:40] Speaker B: You can definitely feel Michael's energy there. Like, you can feel it. [00:20:46] Speaker A: Michael would open the gates to some people that would be waiting. Waiting outside. [00:20:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:53] Speaker A: Michael was present at Neverland. He would just open the gate and let a couple people in, you know. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Oh, how amazing would that be? You know, I just want to go in and see it. Like, you know, maybe someday they'll open it up somewhat to the public, but. But, you know, I know it's. It's like a big thing in. What was that? [00:21:10] Speaker A: They revamp. They revamped Neverland for the biopic? [00:21:14] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. I think when I was there, they were doing, like, the original filming of it, you know, before they had to refilm. [00:21:23] Speaker A: You've seen, like, the. The movie vans and things. [00:21:27] Speaker B: I. I think we might have. I can't remember now. It wasn't like a constant, like, stream of cars going through, but there was, like, one day where there was, like, a bunch of cars going through, so. And a lot of them are tinted out, so you can't see. And they're not going to tell you. Like, the security guards are not going to tell you. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Yeah. There's Jeffrey Jackson in there, right? [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:49] Speaker A: So what's your thoughts on the biopic? [00:21:52] Speaker B: What was that? [00:21:53] Speaker A: What's your thoughts on the biopic? [00:21:57] Speaker B: Well, I'm super excited to see. It's Michael Jackson. You know, I know that there's just been recently some controversy with Paris and, like, her commenting on it. I. I try not to read too much into that, you know, like, she's allowed to have her opinion and whatever she thinks, you know. And I know she made some kind of comment about, like, it's Hollywood, you know, so. [00:22:23] Speaker A: Right. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Part of me, like, I understand that, you know, like. Yeah, Hollywood can be deceiving. [00:22:29] Speaker A: Right. Just like any movie or any biopic, of course they're gonna throw in a little bit of white lies, you know. [00:22:35] Speaker B: Right. [00:22:36] Speaker A: But I would hopefully for the Michael movie, not the white lies. Right. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. I would hope that you're gonna portray it him, you know, the way. Like the truth, you know, we want. We want to know the real him. We already know him, but. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Do you think that the movie is going to be split up into two parts or is gonna be one whole movie? [00:23:01] Speaker B: I don't know. I mean, it seems like it's. It's a lot, so. And I don't. I honestly don't know how I feel about if it's two or one. You know, I don't know if I would want to sit through four hours of. I would, because, you know, like that old movie that used to be on like VH1, the Jackson. What was it? The Dream. [00:23:22] Speaker A: The American Dream. [00:23:22] Speaker B: The American Dream, yes. That was like a three hour movie, you know, like, so I sat through that many times, so I'm sure I would sit through like a four hour. Of course it's Michael Jackson. And then if they split it up, you know, it would be like, okay, so when's the, When's the next part coming out? Like, are they gonna like, make us wait a whole nother year for that? You know, like that kind of. [00:23:43] Speaker A: I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Like, they've made us wait this long. And I'm also skeptical about. Is it definitely coming out in April? [00:23:52] Speaker A: They. They pushed it twice already, so I'm a little concerned too. [00:23:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:57] Speaker A: And you know, we haven't even. We haven't even got any advertisements. No trailers. Right. Like no promo, nothing. I know, but I'm not going to complain. I'm going to be a good boy. I'm going to be a good Michael Jackson fan and wait. [00:24:15] Speaker B: Yes, well, it will come out when it's supposed to, you know. [00:24:21] Speaker A: Have you heard leaks that have just recently came out on Michael's birthday? [00:24:27] Speaker B: I have not. I have not. [00:24:29] Speaker A: There's a handful of leaks that came up. They're snippets, they're not long, but they're good enough. [00:24:34] Speaker B: Okay. I have to look them up. I don't know. I guess I like, I'm afraid I don't. Like, I have to, you know, ever since, like, there was music that wasn't his that came out type of thing. [00:24:45] Speaker A: Oh yeah, the Michael album. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:24:50] Speaker A: That album was something else. Right. When I first got that album, I thought, this something doesn't sound right. Yeah, I was, I was young. I was like maybe 10 or 11 when that came out. I don't remember, you know, but something didn't sound right to me. Right to me. And then, you know, later we found out who it was. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Right. Yes. So that's like, I'm skeptical sometimes when, like the leaked stuff comes out, I'm. [00:25:18] Speaker A: Like. [00:25:20] Speaker B: Is this someone, like leaking something for real? Like, of course I want to hear anything. Yeah, I know. That's the scary thing too. Like, I love AI. But at the same time, it's definitely. It's scary how. How real it can be. [00:25:37] Speaker A: Four years ago, AI wasn't this powerful. Now it's so power. Just wait another five years. Oh, my gosh. [00:25:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Just saying. It's both like a. I mean, it's like one of those things where it's like a blessing and a curse. We can, like, use it for really great things, but then it can also be used for not things. [00:25:56] Speaker A: You know, there's some AI Michael Jackson songs that are really good. They're really convincing. [00:26:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:04] Speaker A: And I wouldn't even know that it's AI if no one told me. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Right. [00:26:08] Speaker A: That's. That's how crazy AI is getting these days. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. I know. [00:26:13] Speaker A: Nuts. [00:26:14] Speaker B: The world is crazy. [00:26:15] Speaker A: I could be AI. [00:26:17] Speaker B: You could be. I would never known. [00:26:22] Speaker A: You would have never known. I mean, behind the mask, no picture. [00:26:28] Speaker B: A question about that event in Vegas. So was that like. Like, it was a planned event for fans? [00:26:37] Speaker A: The brunch. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:40] Speaker A: So the brunch. So you had to, of course, buy a ticket to MJ1 to be a part of the brunch. It was the first 100 ticket buyers that got into the brunch, and they do it every year. The first time I went, it was the Blue Sapphire event. So for Michael's 65th birthday. Right. [00:26:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:00] Speaker A: And that was pretty cool. They didn't do, like, a. A theme, you know, this year, I think they only did a theme, you know, for 65. But, you know, it's a cool experience, though. We got to see. We got to see the off the Wall album, the award for being diamond certified, and we got to see the trophy that came along with it. A gentleman from Sony came and unveiled. Was so incredible, and I love Michael so much. I was literally sobbing, like, as soon as they took off the COVID from the plaque with the off the Wall album, I was sobbing because I was so happy. Off the Wall is one of my favorite albums, and I was. I was so happy. I felt like the happiest one in the room. But we were all happy. We were all cheering, and it was a great experience. And I would live that experience every day of my life. Anytime I'm experiencing Michael Jackson with a group of people, I would live it every day. [00:28:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I hear you. That's. I'm going to Kingvention. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Ooh. King Bench. And I've heard so many positive things about. [00:28:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I just learned about it from someone else I had on my podcast, but then I saw that it's coming to New York City. So I was like, I'm going. [00:28:22] Speaker A: That's originally a UK event, right? [00:28:25] Speaker B: Yeah, it's usually like in London and I think they did it in LA last year, but. But yeah, it's usually in the uk. [00:28:33] Speaker A: It's in New York. [00:28:35] Speaker B: Yeah. New York. [00:28:36] Speaker A: When's the day? [00:28:37] Speaker B: October 25th. [00:28:39] Speaker A: October 25th. I don't know. I think I may have a show then. I'm gonna try to go. I'm gonna try to go. [00:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. Yeah. [00:28:50] Speaker A: We will see each other there. Yeah. [00:28:54] Speaker B: But yeah, I'm super excited because again, it's like, it's surrounding yourself with Michael Jackson people. [00:29:01] Speaker A: Right? Like minded people. Yeah. [00:29:03] Speaker B: So it's gonna be like, I just. It's gonna be an amazing day. I'm going with my two Michael Jackson besties and I'm gonna be surrounded by other Michael Jackson fans. You know, it's gonna be a big party. [00:29:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be incredible. Maybe there'll be a handful of other tributes there too. Yeah, I know if you're doing anything special, any like, you know, awards or like live music or anything. [00:29:29] Speaker B: They haven't announced anything like that yet. They only announced something about like the 2,000 watts 3D something, which I don't. [00:29:36] Speaker A: Know much about 3D. [00:29:38] Speaker B: Yeah, some something. I'm excited. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Sounds interesting. [00:29:43] Speaker B: And then there's some kind of. There's a. Michael Jackson's photographer from the History album is going to be there. Who else is going to be there? But there is supposed to be like an after party too, so I don't know. Said to be determined, so. Yeah, so I'm making. I mean, it's going to be like a day out of it. I should probably stay there. [00:30:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I would. [00:30:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Just so I want to be traveling late at night on the train, so. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Right. Take an Uber. It's a little safer. [00:30:18] Speaker B: Oh, well, that's kind of like a three hour Uber ride. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Oh, you're right. You. You're right. [00:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. I'll be with people, so it's okay. [00:30:27] Speaker A: Cool. [00:30:28] Speaker B: It's been amazing. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you so much for having me. It means so much. I was. I'm so glad we could talk about Michael Jackson together. [00:30:36] Speaker B: Me too. [00:30:37] Speaker A: And share our love and all that about Michael. I do it every day. [00:30:42] Speaker B: Yes, I would too. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Let's do it tomorrow. Let's do it next week. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Let's do it every day, Same time. [00:30:50] Speaker A: Thank you so much, Cheryl. I really appreciate it, truly. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Yes. It's been a pleasure to have you on and good luck with your show, and hopefully I'll get to see it. [00:30:59] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you. I'll talk to you soon. Okay. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Thank you, everyone, for watching. It's All For Love. See you next time. [00:31:04] Speaker A: It's all for Love.

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